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Why Nerds are Unpopular (2003)

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Resurfaced independently across 8 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
12
submitters
12
observed span
2011–2021
peak thread · 115 comments
78 pts
latest 20+ return · 2020-10-07
62 pts

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2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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My main problem with this essay is the idea that the 'nerd' is a "few steps ahead" already. I think this stems from pg's confusion of intellect (which he notes is not scalar but discusses it as if it is anyway) with 'nerdiness'. The nerd is no better (or generally, even that much smarter - many of the non-marginalised people will grow up to be just as bright and successful), they are simply marginalised for being different. And they have…

imc·78-point thread·

Since we(comments and PG) are all peddling anecdotes.. IME, the dynamics in Indian schools, are polar opposite to the ones described here. "Nerds" tend to do well in both academics and extracurriculars. And in the majority case can also be referred to simultaneously as "Jocks". The separation between "nerds" and "jocks" into two ends of a (lunch table) spectrum is the biggest culture shock to me. The words that separate "nerds" and "jocks" don't exist in my native language's vocabulary…

Looking back, the thing I wish someone in middle/high school pointed out to me is how temporary it is. Day in and day out it's your entire life and you think it goes on like that forever, and then one day you graduate and poof it all disappears. I remember the day after I graduated it sunk in that I'd never be in that world again and this huge feeling of relief and excitement washed over me...and then I remember…

gavman·61-point thread·

Even now this is probably the single worst essay PG has ever published, and he's written some stinkers. Nerds weren't unpopular in school because they were actually even cooler than everyone else, and didn't want to waste their time stooping to everyone else's debased level of communication and friendship. That's an absurd fantasy. Nerds are unpopular in forced social settings like secondary schools because they're huge assholes, the kind of people that even 25 years later write essays about how…

blasdel·13-point thread·

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
238

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Total comments
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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2011-02-03Why Nerds Are Unpopularjoelrunyon61
2011-05-10Why Nerds are unpopularConcours31
2011-08-04Why nerds are unpopular?gcmalloc1320
2011-09-20Why Nerds Are Unpopular [2003]franze20
2014-03-05Why Nerds are Unpopularstrictfp31
2014-05-17Why Nerds are Unpopular (2003)First breakout · Best threaddanso78115
2016-10-13Why Nerds are Unpopular (2003)cnkk30
2017-01-24Why Nerds Are Unpopular (2003)Hall inductiontempw6170
2018-10-17Why Nerds are Unpopular (2003)miguelmota10
2019-06-12Why Nerds Are Unpopular (2003)Zanneth20
2020-10-07Why Nerds Are Unpopular (2003)Latest 20+ point returnest316244
2021-07-05Why Nerds Are Unpopular (2003)ai_ja_nai40