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Stoicism's appeal to the rich and powerful (2019)

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Resurfaced independently across 5 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
6
submitters
6
observed span
2019–2025
peak thread · 320 comments
201 pts
latest 20+ return · 2025-03-14
201 pts

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2007–2026

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"But on the negative side, stoicism’s Providential claim that everything in the universe is already perfect and that things which seem bad or unjust are secretly good underneath (a claim Christianity borrowed from Stoicism) can be used to justify the idea that the rich and powerful are meant to be rich and powerful, that the poor and downtrodden are meant to be poor and downtrodden, and that even the worst actions are actually good in an ineffable and eternal way"…

samspot·201-point thread·

I like the slightly provocative title. To the stoics themselves, wealth and power are indifferent: neither good or bad. I say that the title is provocative because wealth and power often provoke people, as can be seen in this very discussion (here on Hacker News). Depending on where you come from and where you are in life, a phrase such as "rich and powerful" may call forth the negative stereotype of evil wealthy people, or it may call forth the…

Because so many common problems can be solved by application of wealth and/or power, it's almost a tautology that the rich and powerful will be left with problems which are largely insoluble by external means; hence to reconcile oneself to the inconsistency of their constraints, it is useful to seek the consolation of philosophy.

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
310

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Total comments
439

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2019-03-28Stoicism's Appeal to the Rich and PowerfulFirst breakoutfanf2102118
2020-06-27Stoicism’s Appeal to the Rich and Powerfulcairo_x20
2020-09-30Stoicism’s Appeal to the Rich and Powerfulroflc0ptic10
2021-02-12Stoicism’s Appeal to the Rich and PowerfulKarrot_Kream20
2023-11-08Stoicism's Appeal to the Rich and Powerful – Ex Urbejanandonly21
2025-03-14Stoicism's appeal to the rich and powerful (2019)Hall induction · Best thread · Latest 20+ point returnTomte201320