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Writing code doesn't mix well with oration

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
3
submitters
3
observed span
2015–2019
peak thread · 88 comments
173 pts
latest 20+ return · 2019-01-25
138 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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I'm not sure I always agree with this. David Beazley's 2015 PyCon talk on concurrency (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCs5OvhV9S4) was one of my favorite talks of the conference, and it was almost all just live coding. Part of what made that talk compelling was that it took a concept that lots of people find complex/intimidating (how the internals of an asynchronous IO library work) and in ~30 minutes created a full working example in front of a live audience. Writing the code live…

There are a lot of caveats, good live coding demos seem share some of the same properties: - the presentation is focused on the experience around writing the code. Debugging, tooling, etc. No, I don't want to see you fumble around coding. Yes, I do want to see you interact with your tools and libraries and help me learn something in the process. - the presentation is polished and the presenter knows every single line by heart (and have complete…

shortj·138-point thread·

I'm not sure I agree, live coding, when polished and done right grounds a presentation. Without a live coding element "technical" presentations can quickly devolve into marketing where grandiose claims are often made that are devoid any merit. I think the real gap is most people underestimate how much preparation time must be invested in a live coding demo.

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
313

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Total comments
177

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2015-11-13Writing code doesn't mix well with orationFirst breakout · Best threadjf17388
2017-11-12Your live coding demo is boringtbassetto21
2019-01-25Your live coding demo is boring me (2015)Latest 20+ point returnpizza13888