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Welcome to the land that no country wants: Bir Tawil (2016)

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Resurfaced independently across 5 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
6
submitters
5
observed span
2019–2025
peak thread · 78 comments
145 pts
latest 20+ return · 2025-05-16
21 pts

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2007–2026

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I would suggest to people that want to colonize mars that we try a self-sustaining colony at Bir Tawil first. Of course it would need a sufficient budget, in USD or EUR per year, and cooperation from the adjacent governments for over-land transport of supplies and construction materials. Not for the purpose of trying to claim it as a sovereign state (silly idea), but as a proof of concept on the volume of material/logistics involved and to stress-test the technology…

> On Egyptian maps, Bir Tawil is shown as belonging to Sudan. On Sudanese maps, it appears as part of Egypt. In practice, Bir Tawil is widely believed to have the legal status of terra nullius – “nobody’s land” – and there is nothing else quite like it on the planet. This is wrong and the article later corrects itself: > Their ties to the area may be based on traditional rather than written claims – but Bir Tawil is…

bjourne·100-point thread·

A legal resolution would establish which country has owned it the entire time the conflicting claims have been around, not just from that point forward. So it's not really unclaimed, it's just Schrödinger guest starring in an episode of the hit TV show, The Westphalian Wing.

My new hobby: going on hiking trips to uninhabited patches of desert and extrapolating as much drama from them as possible on social media

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
277

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Total comments
150

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2019-08-07Land that no country wants (2016)kawera20
2019-08-13The land that no country wants (2016)First breakoutkawera10067
2021-06-20Welcome to the land that no country wants (2016)kizer81
2022-01-15Welcome to the land that no country wants: Bir Tawil (2016)Best threadThevet14578
2024-04-01Welcome to the land that no country wants (2016)EndXA10
2025-05-16Welcome to the land that no country wants (2016)Latest 20+ point returnTomte214