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Meditations on Moloch (2014)

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Resurfaced independently across 11 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

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2014–2026
peak thread · 105 comments
226 pts
latest 20+ return · 2023-03-19
221 pts

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This was a mostly entertaining read, if a bit all over the place. I do have one point to offer -- I noticed this article quotes liberally from Bostrom, Nick, but misses another thinker who has relevant ideas about avoiding what this author refers to as "multipolar traps" -- Ostrom, Elinor. I recommend those who are interested in resources for the fight against Moloch to look into her book Governing the Commons, as she devised a set of principles for…

ex3xu·226-point thread·

My favorite thing he’s ever wrote. I think the Moloch metaphor is really powerful for thinking about accelerationism and is in fact the metaphor of our age. Look at climate change, student debt, housing, or basically any other issue on which we’re kicking the can down the road and you can see a certain Molochian bargain: we sacrifice our children for sake of the status quo.

> What’s always impressed me about this poem is its conception of civilization as an individual entity. You can almost see him, with his fingers of armies and his skyscraper-window eyes. Ancient Greek had a term for the concept of this kind of entity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore

Lammy·24-point thread·

This was referenced in the recent discussion of ad-blockers. The title isn't terribly informative if you don't already know what the article is about, so I'll explain. Moloch (the name of an ancient Near Eastern god, to whom children were allegedly sacrificed) is used in one of Alan Ginsberg's poems as a metaphor for, well, actually it's not entirely clear, but something responsible for all kinds of societal failures. Scott Alexander (author of the article linked here) riffs off this…

gjm11·9-point thread·

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DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2014-07-30Meditations on MolochJamesArgo90
2015-03-16Meditations on MolochMoshe_Silnorin20
2015-11-09Meditations on Molochgjm1192
2016-10-19Meditations on MolochMaxGabriel20
2017-03-02Meditations on Molochsajid10
2017-11-11Meditations on Molochtraverseda80
2018-07-20Meditations on Moloch (2014)elvinyung41
2018-09-15Multipolar trapsbasicplus210
2019-04-26Meditations on Moloch (2014)First breakout · Best threaddhh210622654
2021-01-30Meditations on Molochanm8961
2021-02-14Meditations on Moloch (2014)tosh242
2022-07-01Meditations on Molochdayve50
2022-08-25Meditations on MolochNotYourLawyer41
2022-09-05Meditations on Molochmbowcut210
2022-11-14Meditations on Molochmach1ne20
2023-03-19Meditations on MolochHall induction · Latest 20+ point returnabhaynayar221105
2024-12-12Meditations on Moloch (2014)simonebrunozzi10
2026-05-03Meditations on Moloch (2014)simonebrunozzi50