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Terrorism is not about terror

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
4
submitters
3
observed span
2012–2015
peak thread · 107 comments
184 pts
latest 20+ return · 2015-10-05
184 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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Biggest problem with analyzing terrorism is in the definition. Classifying both Hezbollah and al-Qaeda as terrorist groups means that you have spread the definition for any group that may have bombed civilians at some time or another. I would claim that Hezbollah is much more than terrorist group. Their success or failure does not depend on terrorism. Second bias might be exclusion of successful terrorism that is later legitimized. For example, are IZL and Stern Gang included? I would say…

nabla9·184-point thread·

Kill One, terrorize a thousand - Sun Tzu. Wistful meanderings in to pop-sociology aside, terrorism is a component of general guerrilla warfare. Guerrilla warfare itself is a valid and often very successful strategy to winning a conflict where there are vast resource and power projection differences between combatants. Two episodes in US history are pretty accurate portrayals of this - the American Revolution and the Vietnam War. Terrorism's number one use is still simply a tactic of a regional conflict…

I do agree with most of what is said there, but it misses out terror groups like the KKK, that WERE about terror, and achieved (successfully) their aims through terror. They aided and caused the oppression of black people by carrying out a number of lynchings which left the wider black (and whites who might aid the black cause) community afraid of breaking the status quo. This was a special case as the terror group was widely in bed with…

ljf·52-point thread·

Terrorism is about finding an "in" group. How do you combat this? My favorite quote about how the internet impacts terrorism: "If we see terrorism as more of a tribal or gang activity than political activism or warfare, then online connections become especially important to our analysis, otherwise we will be fooled by so-called lone wolves. Earlier ‘lone wolves’ like bombers Timothy McVeigh or Eric Robert Rudolph turn out on closer inspection to have ties, social & otherwise, to like-minded…

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
308

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Total comments
205

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2012-07-30Terrorism is not about terrorkiba7045
2013-10-13Terrorism is not about TerrorFirst breakoutgwern5252
2015-10-02Terrorism is not about terrorArtistry12121
2015-10-05Terrorism is not about terrorBest thread · Latest 20+ point returnArtistry121184107