Submission timeline
2007–2026One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.
First comments on top threads
HN comment orderHey 'tptacek and 'lvh. You definitely make valid points. But your arguments here on HN could perhaps be reduced if you adequately framed the problem: RFC 822/2822/5322 e-mail, on top of RFC 5321 SMTP and RFC 3501 IMAP, can't be secure. (And more RFCs I'm probably forgetting). To most people in the target audience (LARPers, technologist, and others), "email" isn't necessarily that. It's whatever Google/Outlook/... does for them. It isn't a concete set of protocols. But a _type_ of messaging…
I think it would make more sense to point to the Matrix protocol instead of Signal. Matrix is actually decentralized like Email, allows any service provider as well as app provider - free to choose as a user. It supports Perfect Forward Secrecy (based on the Signal Protocol), arbitrary many devices and "one verification for each individual". Well, you might argue Matrix stores meta data server side (the ones chosen), while Signal at least doesn't have to. But do you…
Use encrypted email. Don't listen to people telling you to stop using encrypted email. Their argument are weak. They promote proprietary services.
The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.
- Breakout years
- 2
- Total points
- 657
- Total comments
- 724
100+ points or 50+ comments
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reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking
Every submission
| Date | Title as submitted | By | Points | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020-02-19 | Stop Using Encrypted EmailFirst breakout · Best thread | lvh | 475 | 547 |
| 2021-05-18 | Stop Using Encrypted Email (2020) | wglb | 7 | 9 |
| 2021-09-11 | Stop Using Encrypted Email (2020)Latest 20+ point return | cf100clunk | 174 | 168 |
| 2023-05-08 | Stop Using Encrypted Email (2020) | modinfo | 1 | 0 |