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Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

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Resurfaced independently across 7 calendar years, with breakout response in 4 of them.

submissions
7
submitters
7
observed span
2012–2024
peak thread · 362 comments
670 pts
latest 20+ return · 2018-03-26
188 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

First comments on top threads

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If someone can't state their point without warping the very language they use to support their point, it makes it very hard to feel like anything they're saying is credible. Example 1: someone is trying to convince me to vote Republican. They go through the Republican platform issue by issue, and compare/contrast it to the Democrats' stand. However, every time they use the word "Democrat" they instead say "Democrap" or "Dumbocrat" or "Dumbocrap". That does not make me think they…

mwfunk·670-point thread·

I honestly don't understand why people value Stallman's opinions on these matters so highly. I completely disagree with him on essentially everything he writes about these topics. Granted, he's an incredible programmer who contributed immensely to the development of our modern operating systems and the tools we use, and people here love to bring that up ("what - you DON'T KNOW WHO STALLMAN IS? SHAME? HOW DARE YOU CRITICISE HIM?") Does this make his opinion on Facebook or privacy or…

To save everyone the time, here's a typical Internet thread about Stallman: - He's crazy! - But he's right! - Right? He's just been stating the obvious all this time! - NSA surveillance! - Hadn't anyone heard about Echelon? - He stands for freedom of users! - But users don't care about those freedoms, they just want something that works! - He's antisocial and extremely rude! - Autism spectrum. - But he's not diplomatic at all, we don't want him…

The biggest reason I can see now based on current rhetoric, is that it's a trap. Once in, you can't get out, even if you want to. That doesn't even factor privacy or advertising or whatever, it's purely that you are attached to a specific corporation just to maintain relationships. If you want to get out: ask for contact details of those you need to communicate with and advise you are working out a workaround. There's no reason group admins…

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
4

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
1813

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Total comments
894

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2012-04-07Stallman's Facebook listHitchhiker113
2013-11-28FacebookFirst breakoutpearjuice317145
2015-03-14Reasons not to use Facebookjestinjoy1605362
2016-06-26Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) FacebookBest threadphantom_oracle670353
2018-03-26Reasons not to use FacebookHall induction · Latest 20+ point returndguillot18829
2020-06-06Reasons not to be used by Facebook (2011-2019)mhb100
2024-08-27Reasons not to be used by Facebook [2011-2019]Bluestein122