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Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)

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Resurfaced independently across 5 calendar years, with breakout response in 3 of them.

submissions
5
submitters
5
observed span
2015–2021
peak thread · 223 comments
338 pts
latest 20+ return · 2021-08-06
106 pts

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2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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+1 Richard Sure, he is cherry picking examples, but there are a lot of examples to choose from. I used mostly Linux at home for about 15 years, then switched to a decade of MacOS. My new laptop is a Linux laptop and I think I will go back to Linux as my main driver. I am really conflicted about cellphones. I was unhappy with the crap ware preloaded on my Verizon Android phones. I am happier with a Verizon…

Note the dates at the bottom: 2012-2018. r/StallmanWasRight

"I can't sympathize much with those app developers, since they are making proprietary software. They all deserve to fail. However, that doesn't excuse the way Apple treats them." This is one of the first things I read on this page. This kind of uncompromising, unsympathetic view makes me think less that Stallman stands for something valuable, and more that he wants to use his principles to be a dick. I mean, I get it, it's Stallman. He always has a…

Frondo·56-point thread·

Tomorrow, Apple will try to convince you 'the developer' that they are your 'friends', whilst iOS 14 and macOS 10.16 will sherlock and kill a bunch of similar apps out there. Stallman still has documented Apple's past behaviour, but the App Store issues are the tip of the iceberg. Even previous WWDCs (pre-2010 'Mac OS X' days), it was nothing like any of this. Now every WWDC, they're becoming increasingly hostile and antagonistic towards developers. Apple is not your friend.

rvz·15-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
3

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
517

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Total comments
353

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2015-12-17RMS on Applezeeshanm20
2016-08-07Reasons not to use AppleFirst breakoute1929300156106
2019-03-16Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)Best threaddonttrack338223
2020-06-21Reasons Not to Use Apple (2012-2018)illuminated153
2021-08-06Reasons Not to Use AppleHall induction · Latest 20+ point returnlioeters10621