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Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay?

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
3
submitters
2
observed span
2019–2025
peak thread · 492 comments
339 pts
latest 20+ return · 2022-11-05
145 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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Many programmers have a bias in thinking that what they're doing is easy or simple, because they truly enjoy it and, many times, have learnt it as a hobby. Their career choice have never been a masterplan on winning big, but it just happened to be so, so they feel like they're fraud. Hobbyist programmers (who usually end up being the best ones) usually put great investment into their career by doing side projects on their free time. We're talking…

> What makes me nervous, though, is that we don't really understand why programmers are paid this well I understand why developers are paid this well. The marginal cost of software is (close enough to) zero [0]. This means that once you make software once, you can sell it infinitely - minus some scaling costs, hence being close enough. We don't pay people based on how hard they work. If we did, stay at home parents would be filthy rich…

ativzzz·145-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
486

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Total comments
799

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2019-12-29Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay?First breakout · Best threadluu339492
2022-11-05Programmers should plan for lower pay (2019)Latest 20+ point returnluu145307
2025-03-11Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay (2019)cubefox20