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You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss (2008)

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Resurfaced independently across 6 calendar years, with breakout response in 5 of them.

submissions
9
submitters
9
observed span
2008–2023
peak thread · 298 comments
322 pts
latest 20+ return · 2020-10-10
202 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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So I'm a manager in a large engineering org (~600 devs) and I've managed from 2 (and was therefore an IC) to ~40 people. I can definitely relate to this blog post and if the author's intent is to say that working in small groups is easier and more natural than working in large ones, then I agree wholeheartedly, but I think there are a few other things to keep in mind. > One is that companies will inevitably slow…

I used to work for a defense company that eventually got bought by a mega defense company. It was ~3000 people in various parts of the country and it was started by a man who deeply believed in the power of the entrepreneurial spirit. It had that free for all structure that PG says he'd never seen in a tech company. It was the wild west. We had different groups competing for the same government contracts. Managers and hackers alike…

uuilly·239-point thread·

You weren't meant to have a boss. You also weren't meant to read, work on computers, drive cars, fly, or even practice agriculture. Its very easy to criticize any modern institution on the grounds of, "Our H. Erectus ancestors didn't do it, so it must be unnatural." Rather than snark about how the phenomenon is bosses is somehow unnatural and antithetical to human existence, why don't we work on creating institutions that preserve the advantages of having a boss while…

Is having a board of directors full of VC big shots to answer to that different from having a boss? I listened to a Changelog podcast the other day featuring Sytse Sijbrandij (GitLab CEO) and he mentioned having to run stuff by his board and I was like woa, even someone as obviously self-made as @sytse has a boss. I'm starting to think that only by bootstrapping (or taking very little investment, at least) you really do work without a…

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Breakout years
5

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
1093

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Total comments
761

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2008-03-20You weren't meant to have a bossFirst breakoutdfranke239298
2008-07-16You Weren't Meant to Have a Bossbabul10
2011-02-02You weren't meant to have a boss (rev June 2008)cwan20
2011-07-13You Weren't Meant to Have a Bosshelwr22883
2015-06-21You Weren't Meant to Have a BossHall inductionjeremynixon9351
2019-01-11You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss (2008)Best threadcow9322164
2020-05-07You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss (2008)happy-go-lucky30
2020-10-10You weren't meant to have a boss (2008)Latest 20+ point returnalexellisuk202165
2023-01-22You weren't meant to have a boss (2008)simonebrunozzi30