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Phoebus Cartel

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Resurfaced independently across 7 calendar years, with breakout response in 3 of them.

submissions
15
submitters
14
observed span
2014–2025
peak thread · 120 comments
195 pts
latest 20+ return · 2021-04-26
126 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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I live in Eindhoven, home town of Philips, one of the members of this cartel. Philips is extremely loved here. They're the reason this city is a city at all, they're the reason we're a prosperous region with of lots of innovation (mostly hardware though, so not very HN-fashionable). We now have apartment buildings named after their founders ("Gerard", "Anton", etc), lunchrooms ("Meneer Frits"), the local football stadium & club are named after them, and so on. Statues. Statues! Not…

Reading up on it, it seems like the justification for creating Phoebus was to standardize the industry (it's the reason all of our lightbulbs today follow the same rating system and screw in the same way). But clearly they ran amok to serve their own interests. Cartels are very interesting: historically few are successful long term - there is too much incentive for newcomers to undercut prices. They need something to keep new entrants at bay. It seems like in…

The planned obsolescence of incandescent light bulbs is largely a myth. While there are plenty of real examples of planned obsolescence, with incandescent light bulbs there are engineering tradeoffs between longevity and efficiency. Basically, the longer lasting a bulb is, the dimmer and less efficient it is. If you've ever seen any of the supposed 100 year old bulbs, you'll notice that they're extremely dim. Before, during, and after the Phoebus cartel incandescent light bulbs were (and still are!) standardized…

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
3

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
496

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
250

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2014-07-25The Phoebus Cartelsirdogealot10
2018-07-24Phoebus cartelZeljkoS20
2018-07-25Phoebus cartelFirst breakoutprawn13148
2019-11-21Phoebus CartelBest threadEndXA195120
2021-03-13Phoebus Cartelmbroncano160
2021-03-27Phoebus Cartellisper50
2021-03-27Phoebus cartel – lightbulb anti-competitionairhead96910
2021-03-28Phoebus Cartelbassvdo20
2021-03-30Phoebus Cartelmiralabs20
2021-04-14Phoebus Cartelaleyan10
2021-04-26Phoebus CartelLatest 20+ point returnmbroncano12682
2023-05-26Phoebus Cartelwoliveirajr30
2024-07-07The conspiracy to make worse lightbulbsbanish-m420
2024-08-08Phoebus Carteldoener20
2025-09-26Phoebus Cartelgeorgecmu70