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No Hello (2013)

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Resurfaced independently across 5 calendar years, with breakout response in 4 of them.

submissions
6
submitters
6
observed span
2017–2024
peak thread · 265 comments
323 pts
latest 20+ return · 2024-04-30
79 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

First comments on top threads

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Sure, let's squeeze another drop of humanity out of conversing. Maybe it's because I'm a remote worker, but I don't mind the "hello" and "hey, are you available for a quick question?" stuff at all. I prefer it, I find it polite and collegial. I'm honestly surprised this bugs so many people. Maybe it's an indication that our working environments are asking too much out of us.

I used to work in a big company where people would often drop a "hello" and then wait for a response before saying why they were messaging. It was mildly infuriating because I would check the internal chat about once an hour in order to remain productive. So the first time I check I see the hello, then next time I check I see what they actually wanted to say doubling the amount of time until they got a response…

wdutch·255-point thread·

https://dontasktoask.com/ Don't ask to ask, just ask Every now and then, in online chat rooms I hang around in, someone pops in and says something in the lines of, Foobar123: Any Java experts around? This is bad form, for several reasons. What the person is actually asking here is, Foobar123: Any Java experts around who are willing to commit into looking into my problem, whatever that may turn out to be, even if it's not actually related to Java or…

> It's as if you called someone on the phone and said "Hi!" and then put them on hold! Typically you both say a greeting then a conversation starts. > Instead of being polite, you are just making the other person wait for you to phrase your question, which is lost productivity. Please don't count every second of your life in productivity lost to someone else. The root of the problem might be frustration with not getting something done, and…

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
4

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
814

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
714

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2017-07-27Please Don't Say Just Hello in Chatmyth176646
2019-04-12Please Don't Say Just Hello In Chat (2013)First breakout · Best threadoftenwrong323265
2020-08-21No Hello (2013)etxm255210
2022-01-18No Hello (2013)emreb9067
2024-03-21No Hello (2013)Hall inductionmooreds10
2024-04-30Don't Just Say "Hello" in ChatLatest 20+ point returnsp879126