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I Don't Like Debuggers (2000)

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Resurfaced independently across 4 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
4
submitters
4
observed span
2009–2023
peak thread · 239 comments
186 pts
latest 20+ return · 2019-03-22
186 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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I loved what Rob Pike had to say about what he learnt from Ken Thompson: ```A year or two after I'd joined the Labs, I was pair programming with Ken Thompson on an on-the-fly compiler for a little interactive graphics language designed by Gerard Holzmann. I was the faster typist, so I was at the keyboard and Ken was standing behind me as we programmed. We were working fast, and things broke, often visibly—it was a graphics language, after all…

It's possible that it might be appropriate for the leader of the Linux kernel but for other programmers and leaders - don't model your own behaviour after this. You're not Linus. You're not Steve Jobs either - also known for his abrasive style. Firm but fair kindness, diplomacy and a lead-by-example approach are the keys to leading a technical development effort over the long term. Do make tough decisions, do hold people to account, do work hard, do expect the…

hoodoof·51-point thread·

Personally, I find arguments against using debuggers to be absurd. More importantly, I think they tend to promote ponitification over science. Using a debugger is, effectively, taking a scientific approach to understanding a software system. It's similar to using a microscope to examine bacteria. The programmer sets up an experiment, and then uses the debugger to observe the software system and learn about how it works. The approach Linus advocates is one of "ponitification", where the wise pontif examines his…

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
279

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Total comments
353

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2009-09-14Linus - I'm a bastard Speech (2000)vinutheraj3723
2015-12-30“Because I'm a bastard, and proud of it” (2000)First breakoutunusximmortalis5191
2019-03-22I Don't Like Debuggers (2000)Best thread · Latest 20+ point returndeepaksurti186239
2023-06-14Torvalds: I don't like debuggers (2000)lrsjng50