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How 'DevOps' Is Killing the Developer (2014)

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Resurfaced independently across 4 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
5
submitters
5
observed span
2015–2021
peak thread · 140 comments
121 pts
latest 20+ return · 2018-06-28
121 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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> Good developers can be passable DBAs if need be Years ago a DBA I summoned to a project told me that my DB design was not bad, given that I'm a developer. Then he made it twice as fast by redesigning tables, putting in triggers, etc. (it wasn't a matter of ORM.) Sadly DBAs are not even on the radar of small to medium projects. If they are ever hired it's too late to take full advantage of their…

pmontra·121-point thread·

I've never met a developer that could setup a MPLS circuit or OSPF over an IPSEC tunnel. The author says that developers can do these things, but I highly doubt it. Let alone be proficient enough to do it in JunOS and IOS. Network operations should not be lumped in with devops.

scurvy·52-point thread·

As somebody that has coded for 20+ years, getting into DevOps through Ansible and understanding Amazon AWS has made me a WAAAY better developer. It really is not something you should ever ignore.

awjr·4-point thread·

Nah. More like killing the operations guys. If the developers can do everything the operations guys can, but the ops guys can’t do everything the devs can, then businesses will throw out all the ops guys and replace them with devs that can do everything. And have to do everything. Ops guys are a cost center. Devs are a profit center. All business exists for the sole purpose of eliminating all costs and maximizing all profits. You should be able…

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
182

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Total comments
211

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2015-07-28How 'DevOps' Is Killing the Developer (2014)bluetomcat44
2015-08-31How 'DevOps' is Killing the Developer (2014)First breakoutzippy7865266
2017-01-27How 'DevOps' Is Killing the Developernumo1620
2018-06-28How 'DevOps' Is Killing the Developer (2014)Best thread · Latest 20+ point returnthrowaway151514121140
2021-01-21How 'DevOps' is Killing the Developer (2014)Hall inductionoptimalsolver31