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Books and lectures don't work

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Resurfaced independently across 5 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
10
submitters
10
observed span
2019–2024
peak thread · 211 comments
195 pts
latest 20+ return · 2022-09-28
45 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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Try only learning things with books for 4 months and then tell me it doesn't work. I tend to notice that learning from books get a lot harder if I allow my brain to be flooded with whatever chemicals are released when I watch youtube or game of thrones. If I avoid those for a while, and avoid sugar etc, and if I work out every day and get enough nutrients etc, then my ability to learn via books is…

tw1010·195-point thread·

The very premise of this article shows how demented Western culture has become. The attitude of, “I invested 15-20 hours reading this book and, boohoo, I’m not a subject matter expert on the book’s topic” is absolutely insane. It takes a decade of serious work to really get a strong handle on a topic. Books aren’t supposed to teach you something to know, they’re meant to teach you how much you don’t know. Hopefully from that impetus one can go…

hacknat·178-point thread·

I think the author's fundamental misunderstanding is that most people, even people like himself who "take learning seriously" don't read popular non-fiction to learn. Most people read for entertainment. So you shouldn't be evaluating how much one learned from Guns, Germs, and Steel, rather, you should compare how much you got from Guns, Germs, and Steel compared to a TV show like Breaking Bad. So, to answer the author's question: what should be done about it? Nothing. The reasons why…

uup·45-point thread·

With an analog system like Zettelkasten, a single index card is used to scrawl brief notes for a book. Ideas are expanded in separate index cards, the ends of which are to publish new, synthesized works. I'm not certain a single index card could fit the entire length of Capital, or even every command from Absolute OpenBSD. So, there has to be some compromise over what notes to take and how much. That depends on the person's existing background and…

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
435

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Total comments
398

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2019-05-11Books and lectures don't workFirst breakout · Best threadMayDaniel195154
2019-05-13Why Books Don’t Workgan_ster21
2020-09-21Why books don't work (2019)durmonski178211
2021-12-31Why books don't work (2019)zuhayeer20
2022-04-28Why Books Donʼt Workdisadvantage32
2022-09-10Why Books Donʼt Workmemorable20
2022-09-28Why Books Donʼt Work (2019)Latest 20+ point returnivanvas4524
2024-02-12Why books don't work (2019)pbrowne01122
2024-02-28Why Books Don't Workcyb0rg034
2024-12-19Why Books Donʼt Work_kb30