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America will collapse by 2025 (2010)

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Resurfaced independently across 4 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
4
submitters
4
observed span
2020–2025
peak thread · 120 comments
38 pts
latest 20+ return · 2025-02-17
38 pts

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2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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We spent so much time worrying about foreign adversaries. But if a collapse were to come, it won’t be because we are invaded by a foreign power, it would be because half of the people can’t stand the other half.

tnt128·38-point thread·

Even if we transition to a multipolar world order and renewed great power competition, America will still be the strongest and most secure global power. It has hegemony in the western hemisphere through its enforcement of the Monroe Doctrine; it is protected by the two largest oceans; it has historical, linguistic, and cultural ties to two regional powers on both sides of the ocean (UK and Ireland in Europe, Australia and NZ in the Asia Pacific, Five Eyes, etc.); it…

Summary: "Europe's empires are gone and America's imperium is going. It seems increasingly doubtful that the United States will have anything like Britain's success in shaping a succeeding world order that protects its interests, preserves its prosperity, and bears the imprint of its best values." Article reads rather speculative & alarmist imho. But... above premise holds, right? Fading military dominance on the global stage, US$ losing ground as reserve currency, dependency on fossil fuel, political gridlock…

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
81

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Total comments
190

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2020-11-16America will collapse (by 2025) (2010)firebaze20
2022-01-14America Will Collapse by 2025 (2010)First breakouttruro35120
2023-10-14America Will Collapse by 2025 (2010)keepamovin65
2025-02-17America will collapse by 2025 (2010)Best thread · Latest 20+ point returninverted_flag3865