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Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)

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Resurfaced independently across 8 calendar years, with breakout response in 4 of them.

submissions
19
submitters
19
observed span
2013–2025
peak thread · 67 comments
130 pts
latest 20+ return · 2024-02-18
97 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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This shows how hard it is to be right about the future: Visionaries see a future of telecommuting workers, interactive libraries and multimedia classrooms. They speak of electronic town meetings and virtual communities. Commerce and business will shift from offices and malls to networks and modems. And the freedom of digital networks will make government more democratic. Baloney. Most of those came true. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading. Logged onto the World Wide Web, I…

Stoll has written a lovely 2010 mea culpa, originally a (now-vanished) comment at: http://boingboing.net/2010/02/26/curmudgeony-essay-on.html, I saved the comment. Quoting: "Of my many mistakes, flubs, and howlers, few have been as public as my 1995 howler. Wrong? Yep. At the time, I was trying to speak against the tide of futuristic commentary on how The Internet Will Solve Our Problems. Gives me pause. Most of my screwups have had limited publicity: Forgetting my lines in my 4th grade play. Misidentifying a…

There are two things to take away from this. The first is Clifford Stoll's own comment when his essay resurfaced over in 2010. The whole thing is worth reading [1], and it ends with: > Now, whenever I think I know what’s happening, I temper my thoughts: Might be wrong, Cliff… Secondly, while Stoll is wrong on many points in this essay, what's amazing is that he hits on things that were definitely broken or deficient in 1995 and had…

Fascinating how the analysis gets wrong what becomes possible or doesn't (online shopping,...), but hits the nail on the head concerning the psychological and social aspects. > The Usenet, a worldwide bulletin board, allows anyone to post messages across the nation. Your word gets out, leapfrogging editors and publishers. Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophony more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrassment, and anonymous…

scalio·94-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
4

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
517

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Total comments
295

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2013-12-02Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)First breakoutJschwa9467
2015-03-02Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)cgtyoder40
2015-11-07Why the Web Won't Be Nirvanabemmu61
2015-11-09Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)adventured10
2015-11-10Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)nostrademons3555
2017-04-27Why the web won't be nirvana (1995)fargo20
2017-05-29Newsweek 1995: Why the Internet Will Faimax_10
2017-07-23Clifford Stoll: Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)happy-go-lucky31
2017-07-27Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana? (1995)wslh32
2017-09-18Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)8x8squares81
2017-10-30Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)BerislavLopac10
2017-12-10Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)lebanon_tn10
2018-02-24Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)mgdo71
2018-07-22Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)munaf9462
2020-05-25Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)pedrodelfino32
2020-07-31Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)Best threadapsec11213054
2022-06-12Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (Cliff Stoll, 1995)mos_6502214
2024-02-18The web won't be nirvana (1995)Latest 20+ point returnglimshe9745
2025-07-23Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995)bookofjoe60