Submission timeline
2007–2026One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.
First comments on top threads
HN comment orderIf they're going to pitch HTML5 as an alternative to Flash (and, implicitly, the iPhoneOS API), then why not let them compete directly with Cocoa Touch apps? Why not offer HTML5 developers a way to take advantage of the App Store's monetization and discoverability? Apple already provides some amazing documentation and tutorials for making offline-capable mobile web apps, but they're still treated by Apple as the bastard cousins of "real" iPhone apps. They should buy or provide an officially-supported analogue…
Context: In the essay [0], Jobs suggested mobile app development on should focus on HTML5 (which is now called Progressive Web Apps / PWA) Apple has has been recently been rolling out anti-PWA practices [1]. Probably to reinforce their "walled garden". [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20170615060422/https://www.apple... [1]: https://ionicframework.com/blog/is-apple-trying-to-kill-pwas...
To put it in context, this open letter was the month before Google's demo debacle at "Flash Camp" in May that year, when every attempt to demo Flash running on Android resulted in a browser crash. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7709473/Disastro... A lot of the comments in that thread would have been posted before that.
The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.
- Breakout years
- 2
- Total points
- 1189
- Total comments
- 698
100+ points or 50+ comments
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reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking
Every submission
| Date | Title as submitted | By | Points | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010-04-29 | Thoughts on FlashFirst breakout · Best thread | andrewdavey | 962 | 505 |
| 2011-11-09 | Thoughts on Flash | shawndumas | 12 | 3 |
| 2013-11-10 | Steve Jobs: Thoughts on Flash (2010) | sarreph | 1 | 0 |
| 2014-03-02 | Thoughts on Flash (2010) | watermel0n | 1 | 0 |
| 2014-04-30 | Thoughts on Flash ~ Steve Jobs (2010 - Exactly 4 years ago) | pathikrit | 1 | 0 |
| 2017-01-06 | Thoughts on Flash (2010) | rishabhd | 1 | 0 |
| 2017-07-25 | Thoughts on Flash (2010) | coloneltcb | 2 | 0 |
| 2017-07-26 | Thoughts on Flash Steve Jobs | blondie9x | 3 | 0 |
| 2018-06-26 | Thoughts on Flash – Steve Jobs (2010) | shubhamjain | 1 | 0 |
| 2019-01-07 | Thoughts on Flash – Steve Jobs (2010) | pancomplex | 1 | 0 |
| 2019-09-14 | Thoughts on Flash | godelmachine | 2 | 0 |
| 2020-01-23 | Thoughts on Flash (2010) | avuxo | 1 | 0 |
| 2020-05-14 | Thoughts on Flash – Steve Jobs (2010) | gge | 1 | 0 |
| 2020-06-10 | Thoughts on Flash (2010) | tosh | 2 | 0 |
| 2021-05-06 | Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash”Hall induction · Latest 20+ point return | max_ | 198 | 190 |