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Trolls (2008)

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Resurfaced independently across 4 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
5
submitters
5
observed span
2008–2022
peak thread · 303 comments
360 pts
latest 20+ return · 2011-12-14
360 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

First comments on top threads

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I normally find that, unless an essay is about mathematics, if it is based on a binary argument then it's just false because it's too simplistic to be based in reality. In this case saying there's only "trolls" and "super awesome people!" is childish. There's a much more interesting spectrum of human behavior online that doesn't fit into these convenient categories. To then say there's only two types of "trolls" is again to reduce the argument to just two boolean…

zedshaw·360-point thread·

I think news.yc has a 5th troll behavior and it's down modding a comment because they disagree with it. I have been down modded a number of times not for saying something rude or stupid just something that others don't agree with. I tend to down mod rude and aggressive people on here and I also up mod people who I think have been down modded unfairly. I am not sure if I am alone with my way of thinking.

Wow, 8,000 uniques a day. Those were the days. Now we get over 90,000.

pg·7-point thread·

Wow, thanks. I'd forgotten about that one. HN has had many ups and downs with this issue. While I think PG's statement "so far the experiment seems to be working" still holds up, I've also been noticing many ill-spirited and nitpicking comments lately. It's a constant problem.

dang·3-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
508

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Total comments
491

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2008-02-16PG on trollsFirst breakoutsharpshoot137183
2011-03-24Trolls (2008)revorad72
2011-12-14Trolls (2008)Best thread · Latest 20+ point returnevo_9360303
2014-12-27Trolls (2008)malisper33
2022-02-09Trolls (2008)Hall inductionColinWright10