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The control group is out of control (2014)

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Resurfaced independently across 6 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
6
submitters
6
observed span
2014–2025
peak thread · 174 comments
184 pts
latest 20+ return · 2022-01-22
184 pts

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2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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Andrew Gelman had an interesting 9-years-too-late idea for what to do in cases like Bem's article: https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2019/01/27/jpsp-done-... Rather than publish all of the dubious speculations and the analysis whose problems took time to emerge, simply publish the data. The advantage, in his words: > In the example of the ESP study, if anything’s valuable it’s the data. Publishing the data would get the journal off the hook regarding fairness, open-mindedness, and not missing a scoop, while…

chalst·184-point thread·

This is a very interesting review of some of the most challenging published literature on the reliability of psychological science. The author's point is correct that parapsychology (ESP and the like) basically has no prior plausibility. Yet a researcher who has the chops to do reliable research, Daryl J. Bem, has conducted "experiments" that appear to show that some human experimental subjects can see into the future. As the article says, "Bem definitely picked up a signal. The only question…

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
377

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Total comments
248

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2014-04-29The Control Group Is Out of ControlFirst breakoutnbouscal17974
2015-02-14The Control Group Is Out of Controlapi10
2016-04-20The Control Group Is Out of Control (2014)dzdt20
2022-01-22The control group is out of control (2014)Best thread · Latest 20+ point returnstakkur184174
2023-09-19The Control Group Is Out of ControlHall inductiongustavus10
2025-07-18The Control Group Is Out of Control (2014)Bluestein100