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2007–2026One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.
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HN comment orderI am a graduate student, first-year, so I have a lot of problem sets to work on. I've been thinking about tau every so often since the last time this was posted here, and so every time I work a problem, I think to myself: would this be clearer if I used tau? And the answer is usually "no". Sometimes 2 is next to pi because of the natural reason appealed to in the tauifesto, and other times it's there…
I like the idea of Tau but "pi is wrong" is wrong. Pi is correct. The pitch for Tau is as a replacement for Pi. That it is more logical than Pi. Tau has an important lesson to tell: intuition is important and in many cases shifting things around so they're easier to create an intuitive understanding is often very trivial and boils down to aesthetic/representation choices. Claiming that "pi is wrong" is picking a fight that doesn't need to…
I thought about treating 2π as τ. In principle mental typography does not need new symbols, just a switch in perspective and alter simplifying rules. Just stop simplifying things like 2π/2 or or multiply by 2/2 if it makes more sense. But then you have slightly awkward formulas like (3×2π)/4 where you have to use multiplication sign.
I am totally convinced we should abandon the π religion in favor of the τ religion, but there is a very unfortunate choice of symbols that stands in the way of enlightenment: A visual inspection immediately proves that pi (the Greek symbol π) is equal to two taus (π = ττ) rather than the other way around (τ != ππ). One way out of this quagmire is to rename pi as tau and tau as pi? This way we can…
The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.
- Breakout years
- 2
- Total points
- 352
- Total comments
- 173
100+ points or 50+ comments
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Every submission
| Date | Title as submitted | By | Points | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012-03-14 | No, really, pi is wrong: The Tau ManifestoFirst breakout · Best thread | llambda | 186 | 110 |
| 2012-06-28 | The Tau Manifesto | tokenadult | 3 | 0 |
| 2016-03-14 | The Tau Manifesto: For the Curmudgeons Amongst Us | hacknat | 2 | 0 |
| 2016-06-22 | The Tau Manifesto | albi_lander | 2 | 0 |
| 2017-03-23 | Π is wrong: The τ Manifesto | jwfxpr | 2 | 0 |
| 2017-06-28 | Tau manifesto | jdnc | 2 | 0 |
| 2018-03-14 | Tau Manifesto | djacobs | 1 | 0 |
| 2018-04-04 | No, really, pi is wrong: The Tau Manifesto | ZeljkoS | 4 | 2 |
| 2018-06-28 | Happy Tau Day | mixmastamyk | 1 | 0 |
| 2019-03-20 | The Tau Manifesto | ingve | 3 | 0 |
| 2019-04-09 | The Tau Manifesto | jacobedawson | 2 | 0 |
| 2021-05-09 | No, pi is wrong: The Tau ManifestoHall induction · Latest 20+ point return | adunk | 128 | 60 |
| 2023-02-07 | Tau Manifesto | picture | 10 | 0 |
| 2024-03-14 | The Tau Manifesto (2010) | vermilingua | 2 | 0 |
| 2024-10-28 | The Tau Manifesto | dsego | 4 | 1 |
