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The $5000 Compression Challenge

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Resurfaced independently across 7 calendar years, with breakout response in 4 of them.

submissions
8
submitters
8
observed span
2011–2024
peak thread · 185 comments
323 pts
latest 20+ return · 2024-11-23
181 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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I absolutely believe Mike should have paid Patrick. On the simple premise that since Mike was hosting a bet that he KNEW was impossible (i.e. under no circumstance, ever, would he have to pay the 5000$), then literally the only point of the game is to find any loopholes. Otherwise it's just Mike preying on unsuspecting victims. If you design an impossible game, the only possible thing for anyone to do is to break it. If you then complain that…

The original email thread was from 2001, and it gets posted to HN periodically: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=patrickcraig.co.uk For another compression challenge that is still ongoing, try "500000€ Prize for Compressing Human Knowledge" (also known as "Hutter Prize"): http://prize.hutter1.net/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37502329 - Hutter Prize for compressing human knowledge (2023-09-13, 215 comments)

surprised all the comments here are about whether he achieved compression or not. Point = Missed! the entire thing was an ingenious trolling exercise, as he says, to 'out trick the trickster'. his goal was to exploit the loose wording of the challenge, and prove a point (possibly winning $5k in the process); I found it an entertaining story along those lines. it proves nothing (new) about compression, or lack of it; he even stats that the consensus at the…

mm_alex·104-point thread·

Poetic justice. I love this quotation from Mike: "I think that I did not make a mistake except to believe that you truly intended to attempt to compress the data I was sending you." Mike is happily preying upon people by taking their money to enter what he believes is an impossible contest, but the moment he is outsmarted he appeals to morals and calls into question whether Patrick was acting honestly. I'm guessing there is some backstory on this…

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Breakout years
4

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
659

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Total comments
534

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2011-03-04The $5000 Compression Challengegrifaton10
2012-10-05The $5000 Compression ChallengeFirst breakoutjpablo104119
2013-01-08The $5000 Compression Challengeigul2224261
2015-03-08The $5000 Compression ChallengeBest threadvq323168
2021-03-04The $5000 Compression ChallengeHall inductiondajoh21
2023-01-18The $5000 Compression Challenge (2001)optimalsolver30
2024-07-16The $5000 Compression Challenge (2001)Nition30
2024-11-23The $5000 Compression Challenge (2001)Latest 20+ point returnekiauhce181185