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Science Is Getting Less Bang for Its Buck

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
3
submitters
3
observed span
2018–2024
peak thread · 148 comments
138 pts
latest 20+ return · 2020-12-31
45 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

First comments on top threads

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This seems like the obvious result of many of the unhealthy forces against science today: replacing professorship with part-timers, rewarding publishing quantity over quality, pressure to promise a quick monetizable result over in-depth basic research. I don't buy the "low-handing fruit" argument. I think it vastly overstates the fraction of scientific knowledge that we possess. Contemporary scientific research is in a state of crisis: unhealthy and dysfunctional. Until we pay the most talented researchers to…

I wonder if "publish or perish" may be counterproductive. It incentivizes people to look for topics that reliably produce papers, it incentivizes grant system to reward people that produce papers, and given that we have a replication crisis on our hands, it seems that quantity beats rigor.

This is the natural consequence of publish or perish culture. We’ve optimized for the wrong variable.

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
192

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
235

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2018-11-16Science Is Getting Less Bang for Its BuckFirst breakout · Best threaddsr12138148
2020-12-31Science Is Getting Less Bang for Its Buck (2018)Latest 20+ point returnsytelus4582
2024-06-12Science Is Getting Less Bang for Its Buckvortex_ape95