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Google, Facebook, and Amazon have fundamentally transformed the web

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
3
submitters
3
observed span
2017–2024
peak thread · 323 comments
712 pts
latest 20+ return · 2019-11-24
370 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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A lot of the comments here seem to be quibbling. The analysis/argument isn't exactly how you/I would have phrased it. But beyond the details, I think it's hard to argue with the main point. The web is much more of a large corporation's playground today, far more. That means new things will be built in a different, more giant friendly way. The part of that that worries me most is the cultural part, more than the economic side. My favourite…

In addition, what's changed between 2017 and now is that back then Google was still admired by the tech people. "Google is evil" sounded ridiculous only a few years ago. I've been ridiculed by my colleagues and fellow engineers every time I said it. But I think it began to change with the introduction of AMP, a growing list of products discontinued for no apparent reason, failures of some of the new products often practically at launch, and finally the…

mojuba·370-point thread·

Yes, it’s time for a successor format designed from the ground up based on 35 years of lessons learned. For example the DOM scares the shit out of people. If you want to identify cowards have them write simple DOM traversal without query strings. I have an idea how that should work a bit more elegantly and simultaneously increase performance. Secondly, almost nobody can write HTML correctly, considering accessibility and SEO. HTML should be replaced by markdown extended with identifiers…

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
1084

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
587

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2017-10-30Google, Facebook, and Amazon have fundamentally transformed the webFirst breakout · Best threadstaltz712323
2019-11-24The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)Latest 20+ point returnpcr910303370263
2024-05-20The Web began dying in 2014 (2017)raytopia21