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Everyone Has JavaScript, Right?

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Resurfaced independently across 5 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
8
submitters
8
observed span
2019–2024
peak thread · 113 comments
87 pts
latest 20+ return · 2024-04-21
87 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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> Does the corporate firewall block JavaScript? Because loads of them still do. [citation needed] > Does their ISP or mobile operator interfere with downloaded JavaScript? Sky accidentally block jQuery, Comcast insert ads into your script, and if you've never experienced this before, drive to an airport and use their wifi. Ever heard of HTTPS? > Do they have addons or plugins installed which inject script or alter the DOM in ways you didn't anticipate? There are thousands of browser…

These people march into every JavaScript discussion, carrying the same cross on their back since the first day Netscape supported AJAX. They lament what a travesty the internet has become thanks to this mongrel language which broke the purity of HTML. What really gets me is this kind of Good Samaritan plea to developers to just “do the right thing” as if every line of JavaScript was paid in orphan tears and puppy blood. It’s 2021 and at this point…

I'm sorry but you have to draw a line somewhere. Unless you are a massive corporation there simply isn't the manpower available at most places to accomplish a JS and non-JS version of your site/app. I'll admit I'm coming at this 100% from the webapp angle. No project manager is going to sign off on that work NOR SHOULD THEY in 99% of cases.

Realistic answer to all of those would probably be: "... then this user won't be able to load ads, so I don't care about them anyway"

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
189

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Total comments
212

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2019-10-26Everyone Has JavaScript, Right?oftenwrong146
2020-01-10Everyone Has JavaScript, Right?rahuldottech30
2020-06-03Everyone Has JavaScript, Right?catacombs20
2021-06-02Everyone Has JavaScript, Right?oedmarap21
2021-06-12Everyone Has JavaScript, Right?First breakout0xedb6888
2023-05-06Everyone Has JavaScript, Right?doodlesdev40
2023-09-18Everyone Has JavaScript, Right?DecayingOrganic94
2024-04-21Everyone has JavaScript, right?Hall induction · Best thread · Latest 20+ point returntosh87113