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Chat Wars: Microsoft vs. AOL

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Resurfaced independently across 7 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
13
submitters
13
observed span
2014–2025
peak thread · 30 comments
160 pts
latest 20+ return · 2015-05-10
126 pts

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2007–2026

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This passage hits pretty hard in terms of company culture. I think this is what Peter Thiel meant by "dont fuck up the culture" to Airbnb. "Those were the years of Microsoft’s long, slow decline, which continues to this day. The number of things wrong with the company was extraordinary, but they can be summed up by the word bureaucracy. Early on at Microsoft—and even later, when we first started Messenger—you could just do things. You had a good idea…

yoamro·160-point thread·

This is a great article. Ok, I skipped the parts where he explain how computer works and the history of MS, but I loved how he goes from the internal working of Messenger to the higher level problems in MS. On the other side, does anyone have a good, encompassing explanation to why AOL was a such a systematic value destroyer? I always read about MS structural problems, but not AOL's. Nullsoft (Winamp), Mirabilis (ICQ) and Netscape (Navigator) quickly come…

aylons·126-point thread·

Another great piece from n+1.

Any submission that opens with "In the summer of 1998 I graduated from college and went to work as a programmer at Microsoft in Redmond, Washington. I was put on the group that was building MSN Messenger Service" and then goes in to reverse engineering the OSCAR protocol gets my vote. When it then goes in to the origins of Microsoft's "Embrace, Extend and Extinguish" thinking all I can say is - Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
319

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Total comments
56

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2014-04-20Chat Warsdibyo131
2014-04-22Chat Wars: Microsoft vs. AOLFirst breakout · Best threaddang16024
2014-12-05Chat Wars: Microsoft vs. AOLjonathansizz10
2015-01-08Chat Wars: Microsoft vs. AOLbootload10
2015-05-10Chat Wars: Microsoft vs. AOL (2014)Latest 20+ point returningve12630
2020-06-22Chat Wars (2014)teruakohatu20
2022-01-04Chat Warsdonkarma20
2022-03-10Chat Wars – Microsoft vs. AOLgraderjs20
2023-12-05Chat Wars N+1AntonTrollback20
2023-12-11Chat Wars: Microsoft vs. AOL (2014)happy-dude40
2023-12-20Chat Wars: Microsoft vs. AOLfragmede10
2024-04-09Microsoft vs. AOL Chat Wars(2014)nalinidash10
2025-11-20Chat Wars: Microsoft vs. AOL (2014)llimos41