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Apple Virtualization Framework

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
3
submitters
3
observed span
2020–2025
peak thread · 181 comments
320 pts
latest 20+ return · 2023-06-04
320 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

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I use Virtualization.framework for OrbStack (https://orbstack.dev), which is a Docker Desktop and WSL alternative. It's great overall, and fairly convenient, but it has a fair share of bugs and limitations. The Virtualization service crashes with various combinations of Linux kernel version, macOS version, and architecture (ARM/Intel), so making it stable in each setup takes quite a bit of work. Device support is limited (no USB, etc.), and workarounds have other limitations. Rosetta is really buggy. The popular…

kdrag0n·320-point thread·

Notably, Apple still has not released an Apple silicon chip that can do virtualization. So as far as I can tell, this framework is currently not testable on their systems using the A12Z.

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Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
495

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
305

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2020-07-23macOS 11 Virtualization Framework to Run Linux in a VMFirst breakout_venkatasg172181
2023-06-04Apple Virtualization FrameworkBest thread · Latest 20+ point returnserhack_320124
2025-04-11Virtualization Frameworkswatson74130