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Wikipedia Has Cancer (2017)

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Resurfaced independently across 5 calendar years, with breakout response in 3 of them.

submissions
5
submitters
5
observed span
2017–2024
peak thread · 310 comments
528 pts
latest 20+ return · 2024-04-20
110 pts

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2007–2026

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I think he raises a very important point regarding the enormous risk of WMF being purchased by the current generation of tech-giants. I don't think there is any reason to believe that new management of Wikipedia by a company such as Google, Facebook or Amazon would be the least bit benevolent. The implications that Wikipedia being co-opted would have on freedom of information on the internet would be immense. I don't think that this is idle scare-mongering. Of course, there…

ajxs·528-point thread·

See extensive discussion on HN (1054 points, 406 comments) of this issue back in May. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14287235

>The modern Wikipedia has 11-12 times as many page views than it had in 2005,[21] but the WMF is spending 33 times as much to serve up these pages to the readers. This seems reasonable given that they have improved reliability, redundancy and backups. I dont see how this is reasonable, especially when CPU , RAM and SSD is anywhere between 10 to even 100,000x faster while being cheaper as well. Bandwidth cost has also dropped by 95% or 20x.

ksec·110-point thread·

My quick math leaving out a lot of details and what-ifs: Wikipedia spent $110M to run the site last year. That's $9.16M a month. If hosting is $2M per month that leaves $86M annually. With no other expense that leaves an annual salary of $287,000 per employee. If you run a business you're most likely going to spend 1x an employees salary on all types of costs. So average salary is closer to $143,000 if they have only employees and…

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Breakout years
3

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
871

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Total comments
504

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2017-10-08Wikimedia Foundation's runaway spending growthFirst breakouthk__2150121
2019-12-04Wikipedia Has Cancer (2017)Best threadwlkr528310
2021-03-17Wikipedia has Cancer (Wikipedia costs growth over time)Macha416
2022-10-31Wikipedia Has CancerBerislavLopac4215
2024-04-20Wikipedia Has Cancer (2017)Hall induction · Latest 20+ point returncubefox11052