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Why TV Lost (2009)

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
4
submitters
4
observed span
2009–2021
peak thread · 183 comments
161 pts
latest 20+ return · 2021-12-09
50 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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"[2] Copyright owners tend to focus on the aspect they see of piracy, which is the lost revenue. They therefore think what drives users to do it is the desire to get something for free. But iTunes shows that people will pay for stuff online, if you make it easy. A significant component of piracy is simply that it offers a better user experience." Man, is this ever true. I like to watch tennis a lot - which, being a…

geebee·161-point thread·

PG - Were/Are you talking about the death of the big screen here -- or just the network/broadcast/cable distribution? Because I think I still see a place for the lean back screen. Effectively you have 3 screens in your life of decreasing importance. First is the personal one. It's 3-4 inches and is in your pocket where-ever you go. Occasionally you might even speak into it and use it as a "Phone". Second is the creative screen. This is the…

Interesting the focus on piracy in this article. TV was losing it when their customers started needing a DVR to watch their favourite shows because of counter programming and to skip the 18 minutes of advertising per hour of TV. Now everyone has an average of two of Netflix/Prime/etc. because it's just eliminating the DVR and all the headaches involved and just getting the shows you want when you want them. TV is still around and will be for a…

This wasn't a particularly interesting or novel prediction in 2009. TiVo had existed for years. That's all people really do differently with their TV/computers today: they watch on-demand. Even in 2009, some people had set up Linux machines as entertainment boxes to create early Roku-like devices that could stream pirated or ripped content.

smt88·2-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
268

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Total comments
342

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2009-03-03Why TV LostFirst breakout · Best threadecommercematt161183
2010-12-16Why TV Lost (2009)bound0085524
2021-12-08Aged Wellprtkgpt23
2021-12-09Why TV Lost (2009)Latest 20+ point returnzuhayeer50132