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Why I’m Leaving Elm

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 3 of them.

submissions
4
submitters
4
observed span
2020–2025
peak thread · 431 comments
732 pts
latest 20+ return · 2025-02-16
100 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

First comments on top threads

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I believe Elm took some major missteps. Despite doing so many things right with the initial designs (and still one of the best designed front-end experiences) it never grew much beyond the early adopters and it basically remained a fun hobby language. I criticized the basic lack of communication and the infrequent updates in r/elm (I believed these infrequent updates were going to kill the momentum of Elm). I was concerned that it made the language seem stagnant. Immediately, after…

I asked "Ask HN: Is Elm dead" in 2022 with mixed results. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31485011 IMO it's safe to say that Elm is dead and won't come back with this attitude of the core team (which is not the only problem of the language). We never switched to Elm 0.19 from 0.18 but moved on to rewrite in Svelte 5 with TypeScript and never looked back.

> they need to think of themselves as stewards and not owners. This is an important idea that a lot don't seem to get. Of cource, if you're in (US) business, the norm is to be an owner, often with a PR veneer of steward or faux folksiness, and most savvy people understand that. (Junior engineers are to be forgiven for not yet understanding that the megacorp or aspiring techbro-ionaire is often trying to trick the kids to get into…

neilv·52-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
3

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
889

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
573

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2020-04-09Why I’m Leaving ElmFirst breakout · Best threadneillyons732431
2023-02-11Why I'm Leaving Elmluu50
2023-06-10Why I'm Leaving Elmbluewalt5255
2025-02-16Why I'm leaving Elm (2020)Latest 20+ point returnflykespice10087