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The tyranny of the rocket equation (2012)

Resurfaced independently across 5 calendar years, with breakout response in 3 of them.

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5
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2013–2022
peak thread · 157 comments
214 pts
latest 20+ return · 2022-09-04
111 pts

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Right. This has been known for a long time. It's why rockets aren't much better than they were 40 years ago. Chemical fuels are as good as they can get. Space travel with chemical fuels is just barely feasible. In the 1960s, it was assumed that nuclear power would be necessary for space flight. Everybody involved knew the rocket equation. The original plan for Apollo included a nuclear upper stage. The engine (NERVA) was built and tested. A Nuclear Assembly…

Animats·214-point thread·

I am dumbfounded: did they really not write the rocket equation? It is good to be accessible to everybody but, honestly, this seems like a silly omission.

Nice that we live on a planet with low enough gravity to get off of it. The article states that if the Earth was about 50% bigger, chemical rockets wouldn't be able to achieve escape velocity. Any species on a planet like that has a much much harder time getting into space.

koverda·91-point thread·

Funny he didn't mention beaming the energy from the ground. At the time of writing (2012) NASA was experimenting with microwave transmission, but it seems they ran out of fund before succeeding... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam-powered_propulsion

brohee·83-point thread·

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3

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Total points
502

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2013-03-27NASA - The Tyranny of the Rocket Equationnayuki30
2014-10-31The Tyranny of the Rocket Equation (2012)First breakout · Best threadbane214157
2018-06-29The Tyranny of the Rocket Equation (2012)brudgers9170
2019-10-29The Tyranny of the Rocket Equation (2012)rfreytag8345
2022-09-04The tyranny of the rocket equation (2012)Hall induction · Latest 20+ point returnbrudgers111122