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The Lisp Curse

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Resurfaced independently across 6 calendar years, with breakout response in 5 of them.

submissions
7
submitters
6
observed span
2011–2022
peak thread · 303 comments
268 pts
latest 20+ return · 2022-03-25
64 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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The Lisp Curse is all the people writing opinionated articles about the Lisp inferiority complex, instead of contributing to existing Lisp software. There are tons of incompatible, undocumented libraries for Perl, Python and C. This is no correlation to anything. The people who want to use existing libraries use them. Those who want to reinvent the wheel will do that and there is nothing you can do to stop them. Lisp Machines aren't magic. If you think GNU Emacs is…

sedachv·268-point thread·

I used to read these kinds of articles with interest, back in my Common Lisp programming days. They would worry me. Back in the day, I would even sometimes participate in language advocacy discussions. These days, I don't care at all — I just write great apps that work (fast). Some code runs on the JVM, some code runs in the browser, some runs in both places. I get to use an impressive set of libraries from at least three…

jwr·194-point thread·

Will it be too much to ask that the lispers build cool shit, and then brag about how lips made it easy? That would be more pleasant compared to this chest thumping. The traits associated with lispers(lone wolves, nih syndrome, not interested in boring tasks viz. documentation) aren't unique to lipsers. Most of the good programmers, regardless of their language choice, suffer from this mentality, and a lot of good stuff comes out of it. CLOS is cool - I…

irahul·136-point thread·

The results (many many packages doing fifty to eighty percent of what you need) are what drove me from Perl and what makes me very uncomfortable with the growing disdain for the standard library in Python. I really don't want to write my own XML libraries or whatever, I would rather just import whatever the standard solution is. I also do not want to have to do a roundup of the available solutions and try to figure out which is…

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Breakout years
5

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
727

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
698

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2011-04-15The Lisp CurseFirst breakout · Best threadwinestock268151
2012-04-06The Lisp Cursellambda13654
2015-12-10The Lisp Cursegolergka20
2016-02-25The Lisp Curse (2011)jlturner194303
2019-09-09The Lisp Curse (2011)Hall inductionfelipelalli43
2019-09-09The Lisp Curse (2011)felipelalli5998
2022-03-25The Lisp Curse (2017)Latest 20+ point returngphilip6489