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Never Use Black (2012)

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Resurfaced independently across 7 calendar years, with breakout response in 3 of them.

submissions
10
submitters
6
observed span
2012–2021
peak thread · 217 comments
761 pts
latest 20+ return · 2021-12-03
320 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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As someone with professional experience in photography and a masters in design – I think this piece is seriously lacking. First – the photo that is used as "evidence" caught my eye quickly because it is clearly poorly processed/improperly exposed. There is no black point and that's a bad thing for the image; which leads me to say – you can't make the sweeping generalization that black is always bad. It's not – and the work of one pop art…

I have been a professional artist for about twenty years and it is my considered opinion that any "rule" given out to beginners is actually a warning: violate this rule and making something that looks good becomes a lot harder, so you should probably better make sure you're not violating any other "rules" unknowingly. If you know damn well that you're violating multiple rules then sure, go for it - break your perspective, fill the drawing with tangents, shade with…

Pure black is the correct color for text. Ink and paper manufacturers go to great lengths to make inks and papers with the darkest blacks and brightest whites, and there's no reason text on screen should be any different. Firefox's Reader View foolishly throws away contrast with gray text, but this can be fixed in chrome/userContent.css in the Firefox profile directory: @-moz-document url-prefix("about:reader") { body { background-color: #FFFFFF !important; color: #000000 !important; } }…

mrob·158-point thread·

>> Roads aren’t black. Your office chair isn’t black. The sidebar in Sparrow isn’t black. Words on web pages aren’t black. A #000 pixel on the screen of your mobile or laptop isn't black, either. I strictly adhered to the principle of never using black until I was specifically asked by one of my users that has presbyopia (and most people over 50 or 60 have it, to some degree) to make the text black. Black text was much easier…

latte·87-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
3

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
1339

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Total comments
633

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2012-08-08Design Tip: Never Use BlackFirst breakout · Best threadivolo761210
2015-03-02Design Tip: Never Use Blackipedrazas20
2016-10-21Design Tip: Never Use Black (2012)Tomte20
2017-03-06Design Tip: Never Use Black (2012)Tomte30
2017-06-03Design Tip: Never Use Black (2012)Tomte30
2017-09-12Design Tip: Never Use Black (2012)Tomte10
2018-02-10Design Tip: Never Use Black (2012)Tomte20
2018-06-17Design Tip: Never Use Black (2012)koopuluri8744
2020-08-28Design Tip: Never Use Black (2012)Hall inductiondeclanhaigh158162
2021-12-03Never Use Black (2012)Latest 20+ point returnjosephwegner320217