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Moravec's paradox

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Resurfaced independently across 13 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
32
submitters
31
observed span
2012–2026
peak thread · 87 comments
188 pts
latest 20+ return · 2019-08-15
155 pts

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2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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It's an interesting observation and certainly something one needs to be aware of in thinking about intelligent systems but I'm not convinced that the notion that perception is intrinsically harder than logic is quite true. I think the difficulty of a problem is highly dependent on the representations and models used. Computers were developed based on logical and mathematical principles so it makes sense that they are, in some sense, "good" at these kinds of problems. On the other hand…

tgflynn·188-point thread·

And this is why logistics companies aren't replacing humans with robots very quickly. Simply put, robots today do not have the combination of speed, accuracy, gentleness, strength and 'hand-eye' coordination needed to do simple tasks that a 6 year old could learn in minutes. You want a 4 ton pallet lifted from spot A to spot B? There's a robot arm that can do that same task over and over flawlessly. You move that pallet 12 inches to the left…

mabbo·155-point thread·

>Moravec's paradox is the discovery by artificial intelligence and robotics researchers that, contrary to traditional assumptions, high-level reasoning requires very little computation, but low-level sensorimotor skills require enormous computational resources. The principle was articulated by Hans Moravec, Rodney Brooks, Marvin Minsky and others in the 1980s Yeah, so where's this "high level reasoning", 30+ years on?

coldtea·30-point thread·

People who think that high-level reasoning is easy compared to sensorimotor skills have successfully implemented neither and lack both. -- Benjamin Franklin Neural networks can be used to balance robots. They can't be used to generate Agda proofs of non-trivial theorems, or C programs that do something useful, etc.

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Breakout years
2

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Total points
528

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Total comments
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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2012-12-14Moravec's paradoxFirst breakout · Best threadkristiandupont18843
2014-02-26Moravec's paradoxbaoyu20
2014-07-08Moravec's paradoxnairteashop170
2015-08-24Moravec's paradoxjskywalk10
2016-02-06Moravec's paradoxsubnaught304
2017-11-10Moravec's Paradox [Related to AI and Robotics]yogrish20
2018-01-16Moravec's paradoxtosh10
2018-04-21Moravec's paradoxnotadog306
2019-08-15Moravec's ParadoxLatest 20+ point returnjkuria15587
2021-05-04Moravec's Paradox1cvmask60
2021-06-18Moravec's Paradoxdiplodocusaur11
2021-08-12Moravec's Paradoxmartincmartin50
2021-09-04Moravec's Paradoxpseudolus20
2022-07-13Moravec's Paradoxthunderbong180
2022-09-19Moravec's Paradoxpiinbinary10
2022-12-05Moravec's Paradox: Sensorimotor perception is harder than intelligent reasoningakiselev10
2023-03-04Moravec's ParadoxNalNezumi20
2023-06-10Moravec's ParadoxSongofEarth134
2023-08-11Moravec's Paradoxelsewhen81
2023-11-30Moravec's Paradoxabhaynayar20
2024-01-12Moravec's paradoxmax_30
2024-03-11Moravec's Paradoxmojoe20
2024-03-13Moravec's paradox: AI replaces high skilled jobs before low onesamin20
2024-04-29Moravec's Paradoxsimonebrunozzi31
2024-05-24Moravec's ParadoxEndXA20
2024-07-01Moravec's Paradoxtosh10
2025-02-02Moravec's Paradoxydnyshhh40
2025-04-19Moravec's Paradoxgjvc50
2025-05-31Moravec's Paradoxmooreds30
2025-07-20Moravec's Paradoxserviette60
2025-09-05Moravec's ParadoxJimmc41470
2026-06-03Moravec's Paradoxchistev51