HN Hall of Fame Weekly email

Modes, Medians and Means: A Unifying Perspective

www.johnmyleswhite.com Books & learning Tutorials & guides AI & data Candidate
Screenshot of www.johnmyleswhite.com captured 2026-07-20
Page preview · captured 2026-07-20

Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
4
submitters
4
observed span
2013–2020
peak thread · 66 comments
332 pts
latest 20+ return · 2020-07-11
141 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

First comments on top threads

HN comment order

There is a much wider generalization here which is studied under the name of "property elicitation" in computer science, machine learning, and statistics. The generic question is: Given a loss function, what "property" of the distribution minimizes average loss; and given a "property", characterize all such loss functions. For example, Bregman divergences are (essentially) all losses that "elicit" the mean of a distribution. If you have any monotone continuous function g(), then |g(x) - g(s)| actually also elicits…

One can generalize this approach further to take any given loss function, not just a p-norm, and ask what statistic is achieved by minimizing loss. A field that studies this is called property elicitation, from the idea that the loss function elicits a certain kind of prediction be it mean, mode, etc. This field actually originated with human experts like weather forecasters - what is a loss function (or “scoring rule”) that incents them to predict accurately? Squared loss is…

bo1024·141-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
477

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
105

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2013-03-23Modes, Medians and Means: A Unifying Perspectivecottonseed30
2017-02-01Modes, Medians and Means: A Unifying Perspectivejohnmyleswhite10
2017-12-17Modes, Medians and Means: A Unifying PerspectiveFirst breakout · Best threadmeribold33266
2020-07-11Modes, Medians and Means: A Unifying Perspective (2013)Latest 20+ point returnniklasbuschmann14139