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Lisp, Smalltalk, and the power of symmetry (2014)

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

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3
submitters
3
observed span
2017–2025
peak thread · 86 comments
166 pts
latest 20+ return · 2022-05-29
166 pts

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2007–2026

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There's something magically expressive about S-expressions and processing them. For a linguistic project I was thinking about how to represent sentence syntax as data and then I came across Chomsky's phrase structure analysis[1] which parses spoken language exactly like S-expressions in LISP! It's even illustrated with parenthesis or syntax trees, just like the old SICP vids explain. The phrase structure even uses recursive definitions so processing and inflecting the content of sentences can be done with…

The thing about both Lisp and Smalltalk that keeps making me feel alienated is that their power seems much weaker beyond their kingdom. The outside world does not have an object browser, nor is it made of s-expressions. Tcl occupies a very nice place in this regard: its homoiconicity and symmetry (and late binding) come from text. The outside world, to a very close approximation, is also made of text. Subprocesses, sockets, FFI, files and user interaction just feel more…

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2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
310

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Total comments
145

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2017-05-13Lisp, Smalltalk, and the Power of Symmetry (2014)First breakoutsaturnian13658
2022-05-29Lisp, Smalltalk, and the power of symmetry (2014)Best thread · Latest 20+ point returnbehnamoh16686
2025-06-09Lisp, Smalltalk, and the Power of Symmetry (2014)eadmund81