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IBM's infamous "Black Team" (2002)

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Resurfaced independently across 10 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
15
submitters
4
observed span
2009–2022
peak thread · 62 comments
234 pts
latest 20+ return · 2015-08-29
26 pts

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2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

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This story made me think. Until now I had the impression that mediocrity at large corporations is inevitable no matter how many smart people they employ, simply due to the size of the corporation. For every talented, competent employee they have 10 average or below-average employees. Even at Google, even (and especially) at Microsoft. Competent people cannot choose who to work with so whatever extra they do is lost in the mediocrity that surrounds them. After reading this article I…

Does anyone have a link to the version where the Black Team member found a bug in rigourously (mathematically) proven code? edit Ah, here it is: http://www.penzba.co.uk/GreybeardStories/TheBlackTeam.html

sp332·232-point thread·

> A member of the Black Team was the last person a programmer wanted to see walking towards him, and more than one programmer was reduced to tears while having his code evaluated by the Black Team. I hope that "reduced to tears" stuff is just hyperbole. But even so, there's an acceptance that to be effective you have to be an asshole, and it's just not true.

DanBC·26-point thread·

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
515

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Total comments
118

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Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2009-12-09IBM's infamous "Black Team" (2002)First breakout · Best threadRiderOfGiraffes23462
2011-04-21IBM's infamous "Black Team"shawndumas23251
2015-08-29The IBM Black Team (2002)Latest 20+ point returncaser265
2016-07-18The Black Team (2002)Tomte20
2017-02-18The Black Team (2002)Tomte30
2017-05-23The Black Team (2002)Tomte20
2017-08-23The Black Team (2002)Tomte20
2018-01-06The Black Team (2002)Tomte10
2018-07-17The Black Team (2002)Tomte20
2018-12-22The Black Team (2002)Tomte20
2019-04-27The Black Team (2002)Tomte20
2019-12-01The Black Team (2002)Tomte10
2020-06-02The Black Team (2002)Tomte20
2021-07-13The Black Team (2002)Tomte20
2022-03-19The Black Team (2002)Tomte20