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Containers vs. Zones vs. Jails vs. VMs

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Resurfaced independently across 3 calendar years, with breakout response in 2 of them.

submissions
4
submitters
3
observed span
2017–2023
peak thread · 235 comments
714 pts
latest 20+ return · 2020-04-06
351 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

First comments on top threads

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Jails are actually very similar to Linux namespaces / unshare. Much more similar than most people in this thread think. There's one difference though: In namespaces, you start with no isolation, from zero, and you add whatever you want — mount, PID, network, hostname, user, IPC namespaces. In jails, you start with a reasonable secure baseline — processes, users, POSIX IPC and mounts are always isolated. But! You can isolate the filesystem root — or not (by specifying /). You…

> A “container” is just a term people use to describe a combination of Linux namespaces and cgroups. Linux namespaces and cgroups ARE first class objects. NOT containers. Amen. Somewhat tangential note: most developers I have met do not understand what a 'container' is. There's an aura of magic and mystique around them. And a heavy emphasis on Docker. A sizable fraction will be concerned about 'container overhead' (and "scalability issues") when asked to move workloads to containers. They are…

I am assumming this is a rant and I know that Jessie knows this stuff. It is just that I cannot handle the patronizing/condescending tone of the post.

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The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
2

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
1079

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Total comments
370

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2017-03-28Setting the Record Straight: Containers vs. Zones vs. Jails vs. VMsingve117
2017-03-29Containers vs. Zones vs. Jails vs. VMsFirst breakout · Best threadadamnemecek714235
2020-04-06Containers vs. Zones vs. Jails vs. VMs (2017)Latest 20+ point returngullyfur351128
2023-05-27Setting the Record Straight: Containers vs. Zones vs. Jails vs. VMsingve30