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Apple’s Mistake (2009)

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Resurfaced independently across 6 calendar years, with breakout response in 3 of them.

submissions
8
submitters
8
observed span
2009–2022
peak thread · 269 comments
723 pts
latest 20+ return · 2022-02-21
177 pts

Submission timeline

2007–2026

One slot for every year since HN launched. Height is that year's peak points; orange marks a 100+ point or 50+ comment breakout. Select a bar to open its strongest thread.

First comments on top threads

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A customer recently asked me to look into a program that used to run in 5 minutes but now took 1 to 4 hours. It's used by thousands of people all over the world all day long. It iterated through an array doing 3 SQL SELECTs against non-indexed files for each element. There used to be about 50 elements in the array; now there were more than 5000. I rewrote the whole thing in one day to do a total…

edw519·723-point thread·

> Now a lot of programmers have started to see Apple as evil. Not me (caveat: I worked at Apple). Clumsy is the word that comes to mind with regard to their handling of the AppStore. I see little or no evil intent > Their fundamental problem is that they don't understand software. That's a bold statement. I'll be more nuanced. My impression is that Steve Jobs treated 3rd party software on "his devices" as a necessary inconvenience. He preferred…

Current rumors are that approvals go out in under a business week. Apple uses the number of apps as a selling point, they're proud of that and want that number to rise substantially, and that they're so confident of the App Store they put their own iWork suite on it; they've been fixing that user experience.

lsb·82-point thread·

I don't know if I can agree with this essay. I've found the App Store review process has helped me as a software developer, and has helped my customers. I've learned to take the rejections positively, and in many cases it has improved the quality of my software. Two cases specifically come to mind: - Apple rejected an app for not putting in battery usage warnings when the app made use of background location - Apple rejected an app for…

The first top-level comment from each of the four biggest threads, in HN’s own order. Excerpts are shortened; open a comment for full context.

Breakout years
3

100+ points or 50+ comments

Total points
1043

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Total comments
622

reference only — not used in Hall rules or ranking

Every submission

DateTitle as submittedByPointsComments
2009-11-19Apple's MistakeFirst breakout · Best threadEliAndrewC723269
2010-01-27Apple's Mistakefjabre8225
2012-04-20Apple's Mistakeeeirinberg62
2012-08-25Apple's Mistake [2009]olalonde20
2012-10-15Apple's Mistakeashishgandhi20
2013-09-04Apple's Mistake (2009)kunai118
2014-03-05Apple's Mistake (2009)Hall inductionsillysaurus34056
2022-02-21Apple’s Mistake (2009)Latest 20+ point returnkeleftheriou177262